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Nobody Should Believe Me
30 episodes
PRETEND: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 2
Aug 20, 2026 · 45 min
Her critics say Gypsy Rose Blanchard can't keep her story straight. So Javier sat down with her for almost three hours and asked about all of it. The pills through the feeding tube. The video where she tells Nick Godejohn she'd been hiding that she could walk since she was seven. And the Demona videos she has never addressed in front of a reporter. *** Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962 Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/an…
PRETEND: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 1
Aug 13, 2026 · 40 min
Gypsy Rose Blanchard is the most beloved convicted murderer in America. Half the country sees a victim. The other half thinks she conned everyone, including her mother. Javier spent months trying to figure out which side is telling the truth. Then he emailed Gypsy. A few hours later, they were on a call. *** Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962 View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Remember that using our codes helps advertise…
The Making of Love Trapped with Stephani Young
Aug 7, 2026 · 1 hr 18 min
After listening to Love Trapped, Andrea invited host Stephani Young to discuss the investigation behind the series. Together, they explore what happens when evidence collides with public perception, why stories like this resonate so deeply, and the responsibility that comes with telling them. *** Listen to Love Trapped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-trapped/id1878220033 Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother N…
Love Trapped with Mishelle and Chalice
Aug 6, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min
Andrea is joined by two fan favorites, Chalice Howard and Mishelle Roberts. They catch up on life, reflect on how their friendships began through Nobody Should Believe Me, and share stories from their "Unhinged Memoir Book Club" group chat. They also discuss their recent listen of Love Trapped, a podcast about the years-long campaign of deception and false pregnancy claims surrounding former Bachelor lead Clayton Echard. Subscribe on Patreon or Apple Podcasts for Part Two, where they discu…
Rob Scheer on Foster Care, Family, and Breaking the Cycle
Jul 31, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min
Rob Scheer grew up in the foster care system, aging out and experiencing homelessness before eventually becoming a foster and adoptive parent himself. In his book, A Forever Family, and through his nonprofit, Comfort Cases, Rob has made it his mission to change the way we think about children in the welfare system. In this conversation, he reflects on his own experiences on both sides of it. Rob and Andrea also talk about the profound difference one caring adult can make in a child’s life, and w…
Inside the Child Welfare System with Dr. Anu Partap Part 2
Jul 24, 2026 · 40 min
In part two of Andrea's conversation with foster care pediatrician Dr. Anu Partap, they move beyond debates about child welfare reform to examine what actually helps keep children safe. Together, they explore the role of community support, the realities of foster care, and why addressing trauma and children's health must remain at the center of the conversation. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: M…
Inside the Child Welfare System with Dr. Anu Partap Part 1
Jul 23, 2026 · 55 min
Dr. Anu Partap has spent decades caring for children and families at the intersection of medicine and child welfare. In this first part of Andrea's conversation with the foster care pediatrician, they explore what actually happens when children enter foster care, why reunification—not permanent separation—is the goal in most cases, and how trauma, poverty, and abuse create far more complex realities than the public often sees. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/…
What Makes a Con Work with Jordan Harbinger Part 2
Jul 17, 2026 · 51 min
Andrea and Jordan Harbinger wrap up their conversation with a deeper look at Netflix's Inside the Manosphere, unpacking the business behind these influencers and why so many young men are drawn into these communities. They discuss what healthy masculinity can look like and why building community may be the most important antidote of all. *** Listen to The Jordan Harbinger Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-harbinger-show/id1344999619 Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: h…
What Makes a Con Work with Jordan Harbinger Part 1
Jul 16, 2026 · 51 min
Longtime friend and fellow podcaster Jordan Harbinger joins Andrea for a conversation about deception, persuasion, and the rise of the online manosphere. From professional con artists to internet grifters, they explore why manipulation works, why anyone can become a target, and how these dynamics connect to the stories covered on Nobody Should Believe Me. Part two drops tomorrow. *** Listen to The Jordan Harbinger Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-harbinger-show/id1344999619…
Rethinking Child Welfare with Alan Dettlaff
Jul 9, 2026 · 1 hr 10 min
This week we're sharing Andrea's extended Season 7 conversation with professor and author Alan Dettlaff. Together they explore the history of the child welfare system, the tension between protecting children and preserving families, and the difficult questions that emerge when both goals are in conflict. It's a thoughtful conversation that embraces complexity without pretending there are easy answers. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order And…
Who Speaks for the Children with Elizabeth Bartholet
Jul 2, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min
During our Season 7 conversation about the parents' rights movement, Andrea spoke with Professor Elizabeth Bartholet, who recently retired from Harvard Law School after more than three decades focused on child welfare, children's rights, and adoption. In this bonus episode, we're sharing more of that important conversation as they dig deeper into children's rights, the influence of advocacy groups on child welfare policy, and the broader debates shaping how abuse cases are understood in the medi…
Child-Centered Advocacy with Roxanna Asgarian
Jun 25, 2026 · 1 hr 11 min
In this extended conversation from season 7, Andrea sits down with journalist and author Roxanna Asgarian. Together, they explore how media narratives shape public understanding of child protective systems and the parents' rights movement. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors: h…
Season 7 Mailbag Part 2
Jun 19, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min
Andrea and Myrriah are back for part two of our season seven mailbag, revisiting some of the conversations that generated the most discussion this season. As they reflect on some of the biggest themes of season seven, they unpack ongoing debates around child abuse investigations, public perceptions of child welfare, and the stories we tell about families, medicine, and harm. Along the way, they discuss what they've learned from survivors, experts, and listeners alike, while considering how syste…
Season 7 Mailbag Part 1
Jun 18, 2026 · 56 min
Andrea and executive producer Myrriah are back on the mic for part one of our season seven mailbag episode: answering listener questions, reflecting on the stories that resonated most this season, and sharing some behind-the-scenes thoughts on the reporting process. From the reactions to John Stewart and the Knowellan Kelly case to ongoing conversations about abusive head trauma, media narratives, and Take Care of Maya, they dive into the questions that kept coming up as the season aired. Keep a…
Introducing: Aaron | Betrayal Weekly
Jun 12, 2026 · 57 min
Betrayal Weekly is back. Aaron was committed to supporting the woman he loved, no matter the cost. Then one day, he asked for receipts. *** Listen to Betrayal Weekly: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/betrayal-weekly/id1615637724 If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow them on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. If you are currently in crisis, please reach out to organizations that offer imme…
Kyle's Story
Jun 11, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min
In the season seven finale, Andrea spoke with Kyle about his experience surviving Munchausen by proxy abuse. In this bonus episode, we're sharing an extended cut of that conversation, giving Kyle the space to tell his story in full. Despite losing years of his childhood to abuse, Kyle's journey is ultimately one of extraordinary resilience, survival, and reclaiming his own story. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother…
What We Get Wrong About Abuse and How to Prevent It with Dr. Jackie Campbell
Jun 4, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
In this bonus conversation, Andrea sits down with intimate partner violence researcher Jacquelyn Campbell to look at how complex issues like domestic violence and child abuse really are, compared to how simply they’re often portrayed. Together they explore what it might look like to intervene earlier and what it would take to build systems that recognize danger before tragedy strikes. *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mo…
S07 E10: The Stakes
Ep 10 · May 28, 2026 · 1 hr 18 min
As we close our season, we hear from two people whose lives were forever altered by child abuse; and in doing so examine what’s really at stake when the media misrepresents child abuse cases and the work of child abuse doctors. Featuring: Tara Haelle, Science Journalist *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781…
Introducing: PRETEND: Chain of Command Part 1
May 22, 2026 · 41 min
In 1996, Sarah DeJonghe was a 20-year-old Navy Seabee stationed in Okinawa, Japan. Two guys in uniform approached her on base and invited her to church. She said no. They came back anyway. Four months later, Sarah was out of the Navy and on her way to a Bible seminary in Washington State. She didn't see it coming. Neither did the dozens of other military members who found themselves drawn into the New Testament Christian Churches of America, a church that has spent decades planting itself outsid…
S07 E09: Who America Considers a Family
Ep 9 · May 21, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min
As the media weaves a narrative about evil doctors kidnapping children: the real harms caused by the child welfare system go unnoticed. Today we look at the case for strengthening children's rights as well as the case for replacing the child welfare system altogether. Featuring: Roxanna Asgarian, Child Welfare Journalist Elizabeth Bartholet, Professor of Law at Harvard Law School Alan Dettlaff, Professor at the University of Houston Graduate College of Social Work *** Read Roxanna Asgarian’s We…
S07 E08: Anatomy of a Conspiracy Theory
Ep 8 · May 14, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min
Why do all of these stories purporting false allegations of child abuse sound the same? If enough people have experienced the same thing, that must mean it’s true, right? The truth is, as soon as you do a little digging, these cases begin to unravel. By taking a closer look into the cases featured in Serial’s The Preventionist and Mike Hixenbaugh’s Do No Harm, the copy and paste storytelling becomes apparent. Featuring: Tara Haelle, Science Journalist Dr. Jill Glick, Child Abuse Pediatrician ***…
S07 E07: Selling a Story
Ep 7 · May 7, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min
Stories of “false” allegations of child abuse build on each other to paint the picture of a widespread problem that can affect anyone who brings there child into a hospital. None have made more of an impact than those featured in Take Care of Maya. The first half of this season was dedicated to John Stewart, and 15-month-old Knowellan Kelly, but what about the other 3 families shown at the end of Take Care of Maya? A story is spun about how these parents were wronged by the system, but there’s a…
S07 E06: The Experts
Ep 6 · Apr 30, 2026 · 60 min
Child abuse pediatricians have become increasingly villainized in the media despite being among the most specialized and cautious doctors in child abuse medicine. Andrea looks at what these doctors actually do and why their role is so often misunderstood. Andrea also explores the rise of paid defense experts who offer alternative explanations in abuse cases that fall far outside the medical consensus. Featuring Experts: Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician Matthew Torbenson, Assistant Dist…
Introducing: Love Trapped
Apr 27, 2026 · 49 min
Infamous Bachelor Clayton Echard’s real drama began after the rose. He left the show disgraced and determined to start over. That’s when a one-night fling spiraled into a nightmare that would lead Clayton into a years-long battle to prove the truth. Host and reporter Stephani Young investigates the twisted case. If you would like to reach out to the Love Trapped team, email them at lovetrappedpod@gmail.com and follow along on Instagram @glasspodcasts. If you or someone you know is struggling wit…
S07 E05: Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
Ep 5 · Apr 23, 2026 · 1 hr 17 min
John Stewart is arrested shortly after Knowellan’s death, but despite what appears to be strong evidence of abuse, the case against John is never taken to court. Andrea traces how we ended up here, ten years later, with no one held accountable for taking the life of a child. Featuring Experts: Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician Mike Weber, Former Crimes Against Children Detective Dr. Cathy Ayoub, Nurse Practitioner and Professor of Psychology at Harvard Matthew Torbenson, Assistant Distri…
Introducing: Truer Crime
Apr 17, 2026 · 30 min
On Easter Sunday in 1993, the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville erupted into chaos. Tensions between prisoners and staff had reached a breaking point, sparking one of the longest prison sieges in U.S. history. Over eleven days, nine inmates and one corrections officer would lose their lives. But what caused the riot? And for the hundreds trapped inside, what did it mean to survive it? Today’s episode kicks off a month-long exploration of the Lucasville uprising. An event that put…
S07 E04: Something was Wrong
Ep 4 · Apr 16, 2026 · 1 hr 8 min
Investigators work to reconstruct Knowellan Kelly’s final hours in the care of John Stewart and his grandfather. John claims there is exculpatory evidence that proves he didn’t hurt Knowellen, but is that really the story the evidence tells? Featuring: Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Pro…
S07 E03: Two Steps
Ep 3 · Apr 9, 2026 · 58 min
After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. Featuring: Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attor…
S07 E02: What Happened to Knowellan Kelly?
Ep 2 · Apr 2, 2026 · 56 min
After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in Take Care of Maya–claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated. *** Vote for us for the Webby's People'…
S07 E01: The Catalyst
Ep 1 · Mar 26, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min
Welcome to Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doct…
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